FA 058 Commissioning Art

Feral  Attraction
Episode 058 - Commissioning Art 02/15


Introduction topic

  • Bisexual men and women face pay gap, Indiana University study finds

    • The study, "Sexual Orientation in the Labor Market," was published online last November by the American Sociological Review, the flagship journal of the American Sociological Association. The author is Trenton D. Mize, a doctoral student in the Department of Sociology in the College of Arts and Sciences at IU Bloomington.

    • https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-11/iu-bma111416.php

  • Up until now, research has been done in a binary setting (heterosexual versus non-heterosexual) as they lacked sufficient non-heterosexual individuals to evaluate each group (gay, lesbian, bisexual)

  • They found evidence that gay men get paid less than straight men, but this can be explained due to the fact that married men / fathers get paid more than men who are childless or single.

  • They found evidence that lesbian women are paid more than their straight counterparts, but this can be explained due to the fact that mothers get paid less than childless women (unpaid time off, etc…)

  • They found that bisexual men and women were paid less and could not account for the discrepancy. While it is possible that there is discrimination (and many bisexual professionals in the workplace report unfair treatment), more research needs to be done.

  • Ultimately, this is a reason that we need Federal protection to ensure that discriminatory actions based off of sexuality, gender identity, race, etc… are not permitted in the workplace.


Commissioning Art of YOUR Character

  • Have fun.

  • Anything goes, pretty much

    • whatever you and the artist mutually agree upon becomes the contract the artist works under

Commissioning Art of Other People’s Characters

  • Just don’t.

  • When is it okay to surprise someone with art?

    • Conditions where implied consent might exist in the bedroom

      • E.g. lifemate, live-in mate, primary partner, longtime close sexual friend, etc.

The Artist/Commissioner Etiquette Guide

  • Commissioners:

    • Don’t demand the artist work in a medium that they did not advertise (if you purchased digital work, do not demand they make it a traditional work)

    • Don’t demand that an artist who lists prices out of your range make a cost reduction or give you a freebie

      • It is okay to negotiate prices with an artist who does not already have set fees, but it is rude to attempt to negotiate a lower price from an artist who offers art at set rates

        • It is however okay to offer to pay more for a particularly complex scene

    • Don’t try to become friends with artists to get free art (alternatively: do not ask your artist friends for free art)

    • Do provide references (or a detailed explanation) of what you are looking for. Artists are not mindreaders!

    • Do treat artists with respect: you are not doing them a favor by giving them a job or “exposure”.

    • Remember to pre-negotiate the rights you wish to have to the finished art piece

      • Right to host/repost

      • Right to modify

        • cropping is modifying

        • Using as an icon is cropping!

        • Might compromise and ask artist for cropped version that still contains signature or watermark

      • Right to post with or without attribution to the artist

      • Exclusivity?

        • Exclusive hosting, exclusive printing, etc.

        • Consider one-sided or two-sided embargo if you can’t agree to exclusive hosting

      • Ownership of exclusive or non-exclusive copyright?

        • Consider work-for-hire contract

    • Do tip artists who do great work for you!

      • It’s great for them, and often gets you perks and goodwill with the artist

    • Don’t jump on social media to bash an artist before trying to work your issues out with the artist privately

      • It may be appropriate to warn friends off of a particular artist in the end, but it’s not fair to the artist for you to bash their reputation without giving them a chance to make you happy

      • Attempt to empathize with each other while resolving disputes

        • Use non-violent communication strategies

        • Avoid ultimatums until all other options exhausted

  • Artists:

    • Do have a terms of service/FAQ that potential commissioners can view and agree to prior to beginning a commission

    • Do touch base as frequently as you see fit and offer sketches and revision checks (if this is part of the commission process you have established)

    • Do not take on more commissions than you have time

    • Do provide good references of your art style (even if hosted on a website like DeviantArt, FurAffinity, or otherwise. Not everyone needs a personal website)

    • Do charge appropriately for the art that you produce, and do not be afraid to change your prices accordingly

    • Do not spend money received for a commission prior to the commission being completed (this is just good business practice)

    • Do not be afraid to decline work if you are uncomfortable working with what the commissioner is asking for (copyrighted characters, other people’s characters, etc…)

    • Don’t jump on social media to bash a commissioner before trying to work your issues out with them privately

      • It may be appropriate to warn friends off of a particular individual in the end, but it’s not fair to them for you to bash their reputation without giving them a chance

How to safely conduct financial transactions

  • Use services such as PayPal that offer buyer/seller protections

    • Do send invoices through the payment service you have to ensure that there is a paper trail in case of any disputes from the commissioner

  • When using services such as PayPal, make sure to select transaction types such as “Goods/Services” and not “Personal”

    • Sending funds as “personal” transfers removes buyer/seller protections in many cases

  • When working with a relatively new artist, there are a few things that can keep your money safe

    • Offer to pay in installments

      • ¼ upfront, ¼ first sketch, ¼ linework preview, ¼ delivery, etc.

    • Find a mutually trusted third party willing to hold funds in escrow until all parties agree that the work has been satisfactorily completed


  • Subject: I am an older fur with vision problems. Will I be made fun of if I show up to events?

    • "I am not sure where to start I guess with some of the problems that I have  for one I am very low vision so I have to wear think lenses to see and I am an older fur 62 almost 63 and I am not a very outgoing type and I have been made a lot of fun of and I figure I will keep being made fun of I know some about being gay but I am not sure if I know every thing and I am terrible about putting down my thoughts so excuse me if it doesn't sounds good”


  • Next week’s topic: Handling Arguments at Conventions

  • Other business

    • Patreon

      • Snares Plug

        • patreon.com/snares for Meatier Showers

        • For amazing commissions by Snares, visit furaffinity.net/user/furious

      • Zarpaulus Plug

        • If you're a fan of furry in high-tech sci-fi stories you might be interested in the Para-Imperium universe by Zarpaulus (www.paraimperium.wordpress.com).

          • He has recently published a short novel with Thurston Howl Press titled "The Pride of Parahumans", you can go check it out on Amazon

        • If you’re a fan of speculative-fiction, science fiction, or Starcraft you might enjoy Zarpaulus’s writing! Give it a look and consider becoming a patron of theirs at https://www.patreon.com/Zarpaulus

      • Myron

        • Twitter handle is @MyronTheFluffy

        • Feel free to follow me for pictures and my daily red panda-dog ramblings!

Metriko Oni

Metriko Oni is a former government environmental disaster mitigations expert with a focus on outreach, education, and policy writing. He now works with computers. He has been active in the fandom since 2013 and has been an advocate for transparent lines of communication. His interests include philosophy, media, futurism, and speculative fiction.